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Service Fabric formally discontinued #1465

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jackbond opened this issue Oct 2, 2023 · 9 comments
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Service Fabric formally discontinued #1465

jackbond opened this issue Oct 2, 2023 · 9 comments
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@jackbond
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jackbond commented Oct 2, 2023

Yes the subject is BS, but for anyone doubting whether Service Fabric is completely dead, they should get their head examined.

They put out a supposedly major new release without a single new developer feature. And seriously, this isn't even a major release, they bumped the version number to meet some sort of internal deadline. What a joke.

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They put out a supposedly major new release without a single new developer feature.

The SF 10 release notes call out a bunch of features, including for things like improving Container support and improved error handling during Backups. What are some developer features that you would prioritize if it were you running the show?

this isn't even a major release

The release notes call out that there were breaking changes, what makes this not a major release? Are you suggestion that you wish there were more SDK level breaking changes, isn't it a good thing that the SDK is rather stable?

What a joke.

Check yourself, fool

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jackbond commented Oct 2, 2023

Those are major features? You seriously believe the Service Fabric is a vibrant product? Name one thing, A SINGLE OTHER THING, that the Service Fabric team did beside publishing release notes WEEKS after the NuGet packages dropped?

Was there an announcement on Twitter, like perhaps the Cosmos team does on a daily basis?
Was there a community call?

You're the fool if you think arguing on behalf of the service fabric team is a hill worth dying on. They've killed this product but haven't even had the decency to announce it. It's a fucking joke.

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mfmadsen commented Oct 3, 2023

Jack Bond, I really do not understand your extremely negative tone on this and a lot of other posts.

I much prefer a stable product with a stable api and stable sdk than a product with updates happening all the time with features that might not be necessary and with the risk of breaking existing deployments.
SF is a platform and as such should not, in my opinion, offer all sorts of fancy, shiny features etc.
What exactly are you missing? Yes, the open source initiative could work better. Yes, development could happen more in the open. Yes, I too think SF in general would benefit from involving the community more in the actual code work. But really: this is a free platform product offering a, in our experience, very stable basis for developing scalable and easily manageable multi tenant solutions. I really think your approach on this is completely wrong…

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andradf commented Oct 6, 2023

While I would have phrased it in a less inflammatory manner, I completely agree with the sentiment. The communication with the community about the status of development is beyond lacking. There are multiple bugs and issues reported that have been there for months without anyone from MS having the decency of responding. There is no longer any publicly available roadmap of what the plans are for SF in the future. The Projects tab on this github has no updates for a year and a half now. There's no place to reliably find out when community calls will be held and they are cancelled more often than not. It sure feels like MS has all but abandoned service fabric and anyone still using it should be actively planning to migrate to something else.

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rafael-biz commented Jan 17, 2024

This project is great, I love the idea of Service Fabric, I see it could be something bigger, but unfortunately it seems to be abandoned.

With the current lack of support, I really can't believe Microsoft's statement that "Service Fabric is an open source project and it powers core Azure infrastructure as well as other Microsoft services such as Skype for Business, Intune, Azure Event Hubs, Azure Data Factory, Azure Cosmos DB, Azure SQL Database, Dynamics 365, and Cortana."

Please Microsoft, don't give up on this project.

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Service Fabric is as dead as Julius Caesar, but don't take my word for it...

https://customers.microsoft.com/en-us/story/1536483517282553662-modernizing-microsoft-365-windows-containers-azure-kubernetes-service

SF runs Azure? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/updates/?status=nowavailable&query=Service%20Fabric

No updates since September? Seriously?

Heck, I could be wrong, lemme go download the latest SDK,

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/service-fabric/service-fabric-get-started

Hmm, that's odd, highest runtime I can download there is 10.0.1949.9590, but 10.1.1541.9590 is in the portal. Perhaps the discrepancy should be document somewhere???

It's Silverlight all over again.

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@jackbond here you go 10.1 Release Notes. Download links at the bottom.

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@jbrezina If you're posting a link to the 10.1 release notes as some sort of proof that Service Fabric hasn't been discounted, all I can really suggest is to get therapy. Silverlight was officially supported for 10 years. net70 support officially runs out on May 14, 2024. Can you find a comment in any of the release notes since November that makes a single mention of net80? Go on Twitter, search for things like Aspire or Orleans, and you'll find all sorts of recent mentions. When was the last time this was updated, https://twitter.com/servicefabric

Service Fabric is as dead as fried chicken, and no one at Azure or Microsoft has the fucking decency to be honest with the customers they've fucked over.

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mcgiany commented May 9, 2024

Jack Bond, I really do not understand your extremely negative tone on this and a lot of other posts.

I much prefer a stable product with a stable api and stable sdk than a product with updates happening all the time with features that might not be necessary and with the risk of breaking existing deployments. SF is a platform and as such should not, in my opinion, offer all sorts of fancy, shiny features etc. What exactly are you missing? Yes, the open source initiative could work better. Yes, development could happen more in the open. Yes, I too think SF in general would benefit from involving the community more in the actual code work. But really: this is a free platform product offering a, in our experience, very stable basis for developing scalable and easily manageable multi tenant solutions. I really think your approach on this is completely wrong…

Really? I understand his frustration. Service fabric is anything, but stable product. As a developer i had lots of headaches while working with it.

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