[SOLVED] RSS Guard, the page in Wikipedia

[sakkamade]

Deviated from #430 (comment).

The progress (most likely only on completion) will be posted here.
If I'd need, I'll ask for some additional information, and then we shall eventually behold why, in all probabilities, it gets rejected.
And if it gets, the actual discussion shall commence there.

Most of information All data for Wikipedia will naturally be extracted from documentation.

Estimated time for the first attempt to be sent as ready-to-read article: <2 weeks.

[martinrotter]

Well, I can say thank you, man. My attempts to write article were just blocked as I am the author. :( Even my account was blocked entirely as I was quite angry. 🗡️
If you have any questions, feel free to ask here. No need to rush anywhere.

[sakkamade]

Some draft may now be found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:RSS_Guard.
Although I can't seem to understand how to add references links, which appearing to be vital for the review.

[martinrotter]

@sakkamade Nice, thanks, man.

I have almost zero experience with wikipedia, but this might help?

[martinrotter]

Couple of extra points:

• in some sentences, English is bit weird, but I am not native English speaker, so it could be fine:
  • "RSS Guard is released under GPL v3 license a"
  • "and using Qt what (which?) allows it to fit with t"
  • "synchronize online feeds like (with?) Tiny Tiny RSS, Nextcloud N"
  • "User can scrape the data from w"
  • "RSS Guard is translated into many languages"

[martinrotter]

Adding references to RSS Guard documentation or other reference would certainly help. Other than that, it might be just okay. :)

[sakkamade]

Couple of extra points: ...

Thank you, I'll take a look.

[sakkamade]

What was the date of initial release?

[sakkamade]

Well whatever, someone can add it afterwards.

[sakkamade]

The draft was submitted for review.

[martinrotter]

Sorry I was incredibly busy:

tag 1.9.9.3
Tagger: Martin Rotter
Date:   Tue Feb 4 19:13:39 2014 +0100

[sakkamade]

tag 1.9.9.3
Tagger: Martin Rotter
Date:   Tue Feb 4 19:13:39 2014 +0100

Is this is the date of the very initial release? Or initial release on GitHub only?

[sakkamade]

So here we go: it was denied ❤️

1. They say that there are not enough reliable sources
2. They say that there are not enough reliable sources which are independent of the subject

Hence if anyone will be so good as to find some articles about RSS Guard on some proper websites, I should expect that it will solve both.

[sakkamade]

special script which you can install on your PC and which can check quality of your drafts

Aw, indeed, I properly glanced over it just now. Whew.

[sakkamade]

Perhaps you could use those "review" links

Yes, I have already used 3 of them, though I don't think I will use this one

https://robbinespu.gitlab.io/blog/2020/12/04/use-this-rss-guard/

[sakkamade]

Sadly, there is not enough information about RSS Guard written by "independent" authors

Actually, I am surprised how you found these four. When I searched, I found none which may even somewhat be considered "reliable."

[sakkamade]

special script which you can install on your PC and which can check quality of your drafts

Aw, indeed, I properly glanced over it just now. Whew.

Still, what did they mean by

(be more specific if possible)

?

[sakkamade]

Well, I submitted it one more time... We'll see.

[sakkamade]

Well, I expected as much: Declined again:—

This submission's references ... do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. ...

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Thus, I can do nothing until some well-known websites would publish articles of/including RSS Guard.

[sakkamade]

[UNSOLVABLE] RSS Guard, the page in Wikipedia

Hahahaha, don't be so pessimistic ❤️

[sakkamade]

But indeed, it's unbelievable!
Such lovely application with so earnest maintainer... And no duly articles about it can be found out there...

[sakkamade]

Ha! We are saved: https://itsfoss.com/feed-reader-apps-linux/
I will attempt submitting the page again, after some editing to-morrow.

EDIT: How could I miss it, I wonder.

[martinrotter]

I love how they screwed application name

5. RSSGuard

No space.

[sakkamade]

Worry not!

Note: The list is in no particular order of ranking.

[sakkamade]

Well, declined again.

[sakkamade]

However, this time I have actually received commentary from the reviewer!

It reads like a website's "about us" page than presenting it in encyclopaedic manner. Please provide reliable sources independent of the subject to prove notability. Blogs and GitHub are sufficient to establish notability. GitHub may be used a link to repository, but cannot be accepted as a reliable source

So, all I can do at present is to remove linking to Github.

I still fail to understand what do they want that article to be. Gosh.

[sakkamade]

I still fail to understand what do they want that article to be. Gosh.

I am of course talking about this:

Please provide reliable sources independent of the subject to prove notability

[sakkamade]

I have tried to address everything from that commentary except for reliable sources, since I can find none, was hoping that perhaps it will go well; however it appears that reliable sources are still lacking, and they are still a big issue.

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This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources.

I expected for itsfoss to be reliable enough, though. Albeit it might be considered a "passing mention", or wiki article truly needs to consist of a bunch of source links on Adobe inc. web-site, at this day and age 😄

[sakkamade]

it is not actually clear what they want, maybe it is that there is not enough information about rssguard from independent reliable source

I am in much doubts that they are going through the web to search for sources of subject of article themselves, when verifying the article.

[sakkamade]

independent reliable source

To be precise, Independent and reliable, or independent, reliable sources?

But being that they say "is not adequately", I am inclined to former.

Although before, there was:

Please provide reliable sources independent of the subject

[sakkamade]

Distinguishing features
write about six, seven most killer features of the app - cite each feature to some independent website, preferably

This is not about quantity but quality, I have seen, though old, but some one-paragraph articles resided there just fine.

[sakkamade]

what about using exactly same scheme as liferea page

It is not like my article is many different, but I believe I remove last three paragraphs in "Features", for I am unable to find anything to cite them to.

EDIT: Hahaha.
Funny how I search articles to refer to what I have already written.

[martinrotter]

Yes, just have everything factual cited from other (reliable) reviews, articles etc.

[sakkamade]

Honestly, never had I expected to make it this far: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS_Guard

[martinrotter]

Holly sh**. OK, should I send any donations anywhere?

Also, I am blocked on wiki but made an appeal, so I will in the future enhance the page and also re-add RSS Guard to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_feed_aggregators

Thank you once more.

[sakkamade]

I will in the future enhance the page and also re-add RSS Guard to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_feed_aggregators

Like so?

Sadly some kind little fairy already did exactly that. ✨

[martinrotter]

Yes, thanks, there are some minor mistakes:

• RSS Guard does "support" Android (but user must compile for Android by himself and the overall UX will probably be shitty, maybe except for tablets with larger screens). Moreover, RSS Guard supports OS/2 - "Other" column).
• Delta updates - Not sure what "delta updates" is but I think it is actually new algorithm in Greader Plugin which is able to perform "delta" updates - in other words it only downloads trully not-yet-downloaded data. So maybe there should be "Yes (Google Reader API plugin only)".
• Also "HTTP Basic auth" is supported for respective plugins which use it (Nextcloud News, TT-RSS).

Other than that, good job! I will probably register on Wiki with different mail/username as current one is blocked and they already refused several appeals (I lost my temper).

[sakkamade]

For now, I decided simply to revert the part of revision where RSS Guard was removed, and see if it will be removed again (and its article to the boot).

there are some minor mistakes

Thank you. I will address them.

Moreover, RSS Guard supports OS/2 - "Other" column

Hm? What is it? OS/2 is already there.

[hercyle]

i saw the image in wikipedia, but how do i add these things in the message viewer by this order?

• Written by Web Webster
• Title / URL (this is neat. the title looks very crisp and i like that URL option separated by a /
• Gray line (separator)
• Date
• Description

is it for windows users only and not linux users? in either case, i want that message viewer looks, Badly.