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[Q&A]: Weblate is missing "Serbian (cyrillic)" and "Serbian (latin)" #514

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Lugi97 opened this issue Dec 17, 2022 · 4 comments
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[Q&A]: Weblate is missing "Serbian (cyrillic)" and "Serbian (latin)" #514

Lugi97 opened this issue Dec 17, 2022 · 4 comments
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Lugi97 commented Dec 17, 2022

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Hello, I found some free time and started translating into Serbian. I have never used Weblate, so maybe I missed something, but I can only add Serbian. The Serbian language is the only one in Europe to use both Cyrillic and Latin scripts. On Weblate, I am unable to add "Serbian (cyrillic)" and "Serbian (latin)", I can only add "Serbian". Is that something that needs to be handled by the administrator? As a side note, the translation that I did in the "Serbian" category is "Serbian (cyrillic)".

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Bosnian also has Cyrillic and Latin script. Not sure if that is a language of its own.
My knowledge of the matter is limited to https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=chA5IiTB4wg

"SR" probably uses what is most common, but it seems they should be specified.
From what I can tell, there are too many options…

In https://hosted.weblate.org/new-lang/music-player-go/music-player-go/
I have these options:

Serbian (sr_CYR)
Serbian (sr_LAT)
Serbian (sr_CYRL-ME)
Serbian (sr_SP)
Serbian (kyrillisk) (sr_Cyrl)
Serbian (Ijekavian) (sr@ijekavian)
Serbian (Ijekavian, latin) (sr@ijekavian_Latn)
Serbian (latin) (sr_LATN@me)
Serbian (latin) (sr_Latn)

And whatever
Serer (srr)
is

Sometimes different codes are used (expected) by different systems.
For example Chromium addons could expect one thing, SysV computers another, and on rare occasion just the two-letter code.

If you know what used where and not we could maybe get that fixed upstream (in Weblate).
What is "Ijekavian"?

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Lugi97 commented Dec 27, 2022

First of all, sorry for the late response, I had a lot of things going on lately.

That's all the Serbian language, but these others are derivatives of Serbian. That is why Bosnian and Montenegrin are Serbian languages with different pronunciations.

Serbian (sr_CYR) - Cyrillic Serbian language
Serbian (sr_LAT) - Serbian Latin language
These two are always used, the others are variants.

Serbian (sr_CYRL-ME) - Montenegrin derivative of the Serbian language - Cyrillic
Serbian (sr_SP) - The universal name used can be any of the two above that I have separated as the main ones (Serbian (sr_CYR) and Serbian (sr_LAT))
Serbian (kyrillisk) (sr_Cyrl) - kyrillisk is our name for the Cyrillic alphabet, honestly I didn't even know it was written that way in English, it's absolutely the same as Serbian (sr_CYR)

There are dialects and pronunciations in the Serbian language. Pronunciations are divided into Ekavian, Ijekavian, and Ikavian, and dialects are divided into Shtokavian, Kaikavian, and Chakavian.

Serbian (Ijekavian) (sr@iekavian) - Serbian language with Ijekavian pronunciation.
Serbian (Ijekavian, Latin) (sr@iekavian_Latn) - Serbian language with Ijekavian pronunciation written in Latin.
Serbian (Latin) (sr_LATN@me) - Montenegrin derivative of the Serbian language - Latin
Serbian (Latin) (sr_Latn) - is absolutely the same as Serbian (sr_LAT)

Serer (srr) - this is the first time I heard from you that it exists. XD If Google is to be believed that is the language some people speak in Senegal and Gambia.

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Lugi97 commented Dec 27, 2022

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