Forza Horizon 5 (1551360)

[ConstBur]

Compatibility Report

• Name of the game with compatibility issues: Forza Horizon 5
• Steam AppID of the game: 1551360

System Information

• GPU: Nvidia RTX 3070 (laptop)
• Driver/LLVM version: Nvidia 495.44
• Kernel version: 5.14.16
• Link to full system information report as Gist: https://gist.github.com/ConstBur/62b966df4d0fabceb35dec479dca1374
• Proton version: 6.3-7, Experimental

I confirm:

• that I haven't found an existing compatibility report for this game.
• that I have checked whether there are updates for my system available.

Symptoms

The game crashes immediately after showing loading popup.
Using PROTON_HIDE_NVIDIA_GPU=0 and PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI=1 env variables doesn't change the outcome.
Also found a reference to Forza's XML crash logfile in Proton's logfile ("C:\users\steamuser\AppData\Local\ForzaHorizon5\CrashReport.xml"), which I also attached to this issue; however it doesn't seem to have much useful info.

Reproduction

Simply launch the game.

steam-1551360.log
CrashReport.txt

[jannis3005]

Can confirm, also didn't work for me with any Proton Version tried.

[rudi4463]

Can confirm, also crashes on AMD with PID missmatch
pid 15657 != 15656, skipping destruction (fork without exec?)

[vardle]

Can also confirm not working with any proton version with an AMD system. Splash screen appears for a few seconds, then closes. Attached my proton log (6.3 experimental) which also has a PID missmatch.

KERNEL: 5.14.14-300.fc35.x86_64
OS: Fedora 35 Workstation
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core
GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT (SIENNA_CICHLID, DRM 3.42.0, 5.14.14-300.fc35.x86_64, LLVM 12.0.1)
GPU DRIVER: 4.6 Mesa 21.2.2 (git-15c8aeef1d)

steam-1551360.log

[Continous]

Can confirm here as well. Same issue as @rudi4463, with a PID missmatch, though I'm on NVidia.

[kisak-valve]

The PID mismatch is unrelated, we see that with all games run from Steam.

[Hoborific]

I also couldn't get it to work, even tried with all the FH4 tricks

[Significantbits]

It also doesn't work on my machine, but I get an unhandled page fault exception

Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x00000010 in 64-bit code (0x00000001405b0808).

steam-1551360.log
n.

[RoyvanEmpel]

Some problem for me! Would love to see a fix soon :)

kernel: 5.11.0-38-generic
os: Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS x86_64
cpu: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (24) @ 3.700GHz
gpu: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 460.73.01 (can't upgrade for vm reasons)

steam-1551360.log

[gabibbo97]

I could get the Forza Horizon 5 splash screen but nothing more
Kernel: 5.14.15
Os: Fedora 35
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5950X
GPU: AMD RX 6900XT
steam-1551360.log
steam-1551360-proton-ge-6.20.log

[ga2mer]

Most likely it won't work, but can someone try create dxvk.conf in game folder and put this to it

dxgi.nvapiHack = False
dxgi.customVendorId = 10de
dxgi.customDeviceId = 1f08

Game should open the window with gpu driver error, click "ignore and continue"
Maybe this helps open the game, but it may crashes in credits/main menu
Better to check for the latest Proton Experimental or Proton-GE-6.20 with latest vkd3d

[kevinlekiller]

Could it be not launching because the game requires "DirectX 12 Ultimate" ?

Some people using Windows 10 LTSC and LTSB have reported the same crashing issue, those don't have "DirectX 12 Ultimate".

[yostonee]

Replying to #5285 (comment)

it did help open the game, but as you said crashed in opening cinematic

[ghost]

Same, crashed as soon as it prompted that I needed to sign in (but did not see sign in window)

[gabibbo97]

Replying to #5285 (comment)

Game opens but crashes during the sign-in phase (with a white window)

[luneko]

Replying to #5285 (comment)

Doing that I don't even get the splash screen anymore and the game just runs forever showing nothing.

[Awshuckz]

Replying to #5285 (comment)

With 6.20-GE-1 this gets me into the main screen that says press enter. Then it gets stuck in a please wait loop, but does not crash. Had to force exit after waiting 15 minutes for it to load in.
steam-1551360.log

[vardle]

Replying to #5285 (comment)

That allowed me to get further than before, however with Proton Experimental the game would crash on the main menu with no input needed, but with Proton 6.3-7 I was able to sit on the main menu and pressing enter did attempt to bring up the white "sign in" window, but it was stuck loading and then crashed.

Suspecting there may be an issue with vcrun19, similar to Horizon 4, but haven't been able to test yet.

Logs (CrashReport.xml and steam-1551360.log for each respective Proton version):
Experimental.zip
6.3-7.zip

[ga2mer]

I think only Proton Experimental is does things right, GE and 6.3 is crashing a webview with unimplemented function uiautomationcore.dll.UiaRaiseAutomationPropertyChangedEvent

Devs changed webview from Chrome to Edge and this may cause issues, the browser itself should work, but it seems to interact poorly with the game or it's DRM fault

[exalented]

Running GE's proton, fixes above not needed to get in-game. The game's audio is stuttery, but otherwise I'm able to get in-game with the drm bypass.

[GloriousEggroll]

Game needs d3dcompiler_47
Game needed these settings to launch on AMD:

dxgi.customVendorId = 10de
dxgi.customDeviceId = 1f08

I made a stub patch for UiaRaiseAutomationPropertyChangedEvent, now it gets to the main screen, but it won't let me do anything:

Patch:

uiauto.txt

Now it seems its missing some combase related functions:

248228.799:02a8:02ac:fixme:combase:RoGetActivationFactory (L"Windows.System.Profile.EducationSettings", {fc53f0ef-4d3e-4e13-9b23-505f4d091e92}, 000000000081BCB8): semi-stub
248228.800:02a8:02ac:err:combase:RoGetActivationFactory Failed to find library for L"Windows.System.Profile.EducationSettings"

248228.809:02a8:02ac:err:ole:com_get_class_object class {6e29fabf-9977-42d1-8d0e-ca7e61ad87e6} not registered
248228.809:02a8:02ac:err:ole:com_get_class_object no class object {6e29fabf-9977-42d1-8d0e-ca7e61ad87e6} could be created for context 0x1

248228.812:02a8:02ac:fixme:combase:RoGetActivationFactory (L"Windows.Media.ClosedCaptioning.ClosedCaptionProperties", {10aa1f84-cc30-4141-b503-5272289e0c20}, 000000000081B248): semi-stub
248228.812:02a8:02ac:err:combase:RoGetActivationFactory Failed to find library for L"Windows.Media.ClosedCaptioning.ClosedCaptionProperties"

-edit-
does -not- need nvapi hack disabled. does need vendor spoof.

-edit 2-
tried amd_ags_x64=b,n override, got this:

wine: Call from 000000007BC31DF8 to unimplemented function amd_ags_x64.dll.agsInitialize, aborting

[NalianNalis]

game now seems to run with latest proton experimental bleeding edge.

[mozo78]

Where you get bleeding edge from? In Steam I can see only Proton Experimental.

[NalianNalis]

opt for beta and search for bleeding edge. the game cant go fullscreen tho it flickers. widowed is ok.

[mozo78]

Thank you :)

[RoyvanEmpel]

The game freezes for me when trying to get out of the garage, what distro & drivers are you running?

[NalianNalis]

i am on manjaro i kernel 5.15 i tried both mesa 22-dev and stable 21.2.4 game works for me and i managed to get fullscreen to work. this is all extreme settings with 4x msaa

[RoyvanEmpel]

Borked on nvidia maybe? Or just borked for me.

kernel: 5.11.0-40-generic
os: Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS x86_64
cpu: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (24) @ 3.700GHz
gpu: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (470.82.00)

[NalianNalis]

i am on RDNA2 forgot to say that. but it is on mangohud.

[jackpot51]

Can confirm, it is working on Pop!_OS 21.10 Beta using Proton Experimental bleedding-edge. AMD RX 6900XT.

[devedx]

You can play with mangohud and Mailbox vsync from the settings (vsync=2 and fps_limit=30).

Limiting the FPS got me about 30 seconds further but then I had the same crash again. At this point I have tried pretty much everything that others have said worked for them except for using gamescope which for some reason fails with vulkan: vkCreateDevice failed (VkResult: -7) on my system

[itouchdennis]

You can play with mangohud and Mailbox vsync from the settings (vsync=2 and fps_limit=30).

Limiting the FPS got me about 30 seconds further but then I had the same crash again. At this point I have tried pretty much everything that others have said worked for them except for using gamescope which for some reason fails with vulkan: vkCreateDevice failed (VkResult: -7) on my system

I assume you have nvidia, did you try an older/patched gamescope version?
E.g.

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gamescope-nvidia

[devedx]

I assume you have nvidia, did you try an older/patched gamescope version? E.g.

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gamescope-nvidia

Yes, already tried all the alternative version in the AUR and compiling it from source, same error every time.

Would be interesting to know if anyone who experienced the same kind of crashes fixed it with gamescope, so I know if it is even worth trying to get it to run

[eiglow]

On my laptop with an Intel i7-1260P, with latest proton experimental, it crashes shortly after starting the game:

steam-1551360.zip

[PixelPies]

Crashes when exiting home, except for the first run after reinstall or after playing for sometime on steam deck beforehand. Seems to be throwing almost the exact same error over and over again. Here's a link to the log file, but it is 4.4 GB when extracted https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a5A810bmdHO4UZhr_BR4Xiu9K3Bv7ZUX/view?usp=sharing

I had very few crashes when I was playing the past 2 days before this started happening, and I've tried gamescope but even with the nvidia build from the aur gamescope still doesn't work properly. I'm running a RTX 3070, Nvidia 545.29.06-8, and kernel 6.6.9.

[janisozaur]

Nvidia released new beta driver 550, anyone tested it already?

[FerrahWolfeh]

I'm trying to test with the new 550 driver, but for some reason, the game just intantly crashes the moment it starts loading after clicking on "Continue" or when I start benchmark mode. Idk if it's my SSD or something different.

I tried most fixes available, even deleting the game's save folder and it keeps crasing. Doesn't seem to be exclusively tied to NVIDIA though...

[itouchdennis]

I did a quick test with these start params:
PROTON_HIDE_NVIDIA_GPU=0 PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI=1 VKD3D_CONFIG=dxr,dxr11 PROTON_ENABLE_NGX_UPDATER=1 gamemoderun gamescope -W 3440 -H 1440 -r 165 -e -f -- obs-gamecapture %command% -novid -preload

Ingame Preset ultra
3070TI
550 Driver

Game just worked, even fast travel worked.
I did no test it heavily, but first impression was good. I had more crashes on 545

[fullbackup]

Compatibility Report

• Name of the game with compatibility issues: Forza Horizon 5
• Steam AppID of the game: 1551360

System Information

• GPU: NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650/PCIe/SSE2
• Video driver version: Driver Version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 535.154.05
• Kernel version: 5.15.0-92-lowlatency
• Link to full system information report as Gist: https://gist.github.com/fullbackup/91a358652d2bc43e9ff6a689e24934ac
• Proton version: Experimental, also tried with experimental Betas.

I confirm:

• that I haven't found an existing compatibility report for this game.
• that I have checked whether there are updates for my system available.

Symptoms

Game go through Intro race with no issues, Log in into xbox account no issues, we reach character creation, upon confirmation of character screen goes black, and spinner will go just a quarter, after x minutes game will close.

Reproduction

It happened after installation so I logged out and logged in with another account so intro race was fine again till character creation screen.

[joezhouchenye]

Why people are having conflict results?

My problem is Forza 5 says it cannot detect the GPU driver.

PROTON_HIDE_NVIDIA_GPU=1 PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI=0 %command% works for me.

However, the original issue comment and some people are using PROTON_HIDE_NVIDIA_GPU=0 PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI=1 which is the opposite.

[UbuntuGaming]

System:
OS: Debian-13
Kernels Tested: 6.6.15 & 6.7.3
CPU: Ryzen 3600
Ram: 32 GB
GPU: AMD Radeon RX7800 XT
Storage: SSDs

Whats Wrong:
Game loads can sign in fine, After clicking continue the game goes into the loading in game screen and does nothing.
Also tried the benchmark tool built into the game same result infinite loading,
doesn't crash, Just doesn't load.
i see disk write activity of 150kbps, But 0 read.
This is a new game i downloaded today.

Other Info:
All my other D3D12 games work fine.

Tried both system installed mesa & mesa-git.
Tried spoofing the GPU, Same result loading but not loading, But the logs looked different.
Also tried every version of Proton from 7 to bleeding-edge-untested.

System Information / Runtime information:
https://gist.github.com/UbuntuGaming/919df6787f0a0cd650490fd998741ab1

Game Logs:
Steam-FH5-1551360-Logs.tar.gz

[UbuntuGaming]

Replying to #5285 (comment)

Forgot to add this is where i get stuck.
I only have 6 days or 6 mins playtime left before i have to refund the game to get an assured refund.

[FuzzyQuils]

Replying to #5285 (comment)

Forgot to add this is where i get stuck. I only have 6 days or 6 mins playtime left before i have to refund the game to get an assured refund.

Looking around, this infinite loading bug can happen on Windows as well, some people have success with alt-tabbing to get the game to retry connecting to the servers as reportedly this is what the game gets stuck on.

Might be worth installing a network monitoring tool of some sort as well to see what the game's doing; if you have a VPN active, I'd suggest disabling that first.

As for your proton logs, nothing looks unusual at first glance, other than the usual vkd3d-proton warning spam (the game does mildly stupid things on the D3D12 side)

[UbuntuGaming]

Replying to #5285 (comment)

I think you might be right, It appears my ISP & my VPN's ips could be blacklisted from the servers. I'm going to contact the Forza team soon to see what's going on on their end. Thanks🙂

[UbuntuGaming]

Replying to #5285 (comment)

I think you might be right, It appears my ISP & my VPN's ips could be blacklisted from the servers. I'm going to contact the Forza team soon to see what's going on on their end. Thanks🙂

Hello
I went to reproduce the issue today & then contact the Forza support
i am now seeing a different issue

Proton versions tested:
Proton Experimental Bleeding-Edge, Proton Experimental, Proton 9.0 Beta.
Proton Hotfix doesn't allow sign in anymore.

Mesa versions tested:
Mesa 23.3.5-1 (system-mesa)
Mesa-devel

Log:
The log ends mid logging when the game crashes
steam-1551360.zip

I recently upgraded to a AMD Ryzen 5 7600x so here's the system information & runtime again
System Information & Runtime:
https://gist.github.com/UbuntuGaming/d0065bdd1d6cbb51ed74617396f5c134

[WPettersson]

Tried the 550.67 drivers, no luck, crashing while loading. Tried a few different versions of PROTON_HIDE_NVIDIA_GPU and PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI but didn't seem to change things. Going to roll back to 525.147.05 which was a lot more stable, usually managing 1hr+ sessions without crashing.

[joezhouchenye]

Completely different result. Ubuntu 23.04 with 550.67 driver and latest Proton Experimental. I don't have to specify any start options. The game launches and complains about an unknown GPU driver version but you can click ignore.

I played for over 5 hours yesterday without any problem. My GPU is 4060 and I can enable features like DLSS without any problem.

[WPettersson]

Decided to be more thorough with testing, and did manage to complete five races without a crash using 550.67, three of which were at 60fps (rather than my usual 30 as limited by mangohud). Results of testing so far included for completeness

PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI	PROTON_HIDE_NVIDIA_GPU	Result
1	0	crash
0	0	crash
1	1	no crash

[Gotolei]

Just ran updates on my EndeavourOS box (i5-10400f, rx 6600xt) and the game is now crashing on launch (shows splash screen, main window opens and immediately closes) where it was working just last night. Tested on Proton 9.0 (14212803), Experimental 14254421, and GE 9-4. Same behaviors in both kernels 6.8.9-arch1-1 and lts 6.6.30-1. Sometimes GE gets in past the press A to start screen and into the proper loading, but then freezes up and pops up six error boxes instead. Every so often there'll be an in-game message saying the game has been updated and needs to restart.

Mesa was upgraded 1:24.0.5-1 -> 1:24.0.6-2. Don't know what other upgraded packages might be relevant, there were over 300 of them.

Attaching two log files here, both are the same behavior of immediately crashing and seem to end on the same error, just one is from experimental at over 300MB and the GE one is around 45MB.
steam-1551360 - Exp 14254421.zip
steam-1551360 - GE 9-4.zip

[kisak-valve]

Hello @Gotolei, can you check if https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/3343 is relevant to your system? A quick test would be to reboot into an older kernel and see how the game behaves (6.6.30 doesn't count as older).

[Gotolei]

Those are the only two I have installed, but I'll see if I can get an older one and report back on that.

---

@kisak-valve Tested in 6.8.8-arch1-1 and it appears to be working. Tried both Proton 9.0-1 and GE 9-4 and both got in-game without incident.

[NKkrisz]

Can't get Forza Horizon 5 To Work - Fedora 40 KDE Spin (on X11), Nvidia RTX 2060

The game launches but can't really get past the intro video which is flickering until it crashes eventually.

Tried various launch options and Proton versions with no luck (from protondb comments).

Kernel: 6.8.9-300.fc40.x86_64
NVIDIA Driver Version:550.78
Display (DELD12C): 3440x1440 @ 144Hz
DE: KDE Plasma 6.0.4
WM: KWin (X11)

protondb link to fh5 pc

[rudi4463]

Replying to #5285 (comment)

Try minimising the window with the flickering intros. After a few seconds they usually go back full screen without the flickering. Then when the intros are finished the game may minimise again, just alt+tab back in.

That's how I got it to work on amd (it seems to be an Wayland issue) but it should work on NVIDIA too.

[SteavenGamerYT]

Replying to #5285 (comment)

mangohud gamemoderun PROTON_HIDE_NVIDIA_GPU=1 PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI=0 %command%

try this, it works with me

[NKkrisz]

Replying to #5285 (comment)

Try minimising the window with the flickering intros. After a few seconds they usually go back full screen without the flickering. Then when the intros are finished the game may minimise again, just alt+tab back in.

That's how I got it to work on amd (it seems to be an Wayland issue) but it should work on NVIDIA too.

Trying to minimize it or sometimes using alt+tab makes the game disappear or go black and non functional.

Replying to #5285 (comment)

mangohud gamemoderun PROTON_HIDE_NVIDIA_GPU=1 PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI=0 %command%

try this, it works with me

Sadly this still had flickering and black screen / crash in the intro video.

[whezzel]

Replying to #5285 (comment)

Are you using an ultrawide monitor by chance? After troubleshooting this startup flickering then blackscreen issue for well over 3 hours, i had some freinds test it for me. They have the exact same hardware as me, the only difference being their montiors. They use 16:9 monitors and i use a 21:9 monitor. If i switch my monitors aspect ratio from 21:9 to 16:9, the game launches fine and im able to play it without any issue.

I can provide more system info if needed, but i have an amd cpu/gpu.

Edit: i see in a comment further up that you are in fact using an ultrawide monitor. If possible, try setting you monitor to a 16:9 aspect ratio and see if it loads. I know its not a good long term solution, but maybe it will help narrow down the root cause of the issue.

[robotman40]

Just saying, but Forza Horizon 5 doesn't launch with Proton Experimental now on my Steam Deck. The game will exit a few seconds into launch.

[kisak-valve]

Hello @robotman40, please add PROTON_LOG=1 %command% to the game's launch options and attach the generated $HOME/steam-$APPID.log to this issue report as a file. (Proton logs compress well if needed.)

[fastoslinux]

FH5 is ok with proton 9.0-2 on Steam Flatpak Mesa 24.1.1 RX6600. Avoid breaks with a specific distro update, if it breaks on Flatpak it's easy to return without messing up your system.

[LinuxWillWin1]

The game launches fine on Steamdeck, I was playing it one day and then the next day it prompted me to login to my XBox account, when I did it just closed the login prompt and asked me to do it again. It's a common problem for windows users (google login loop FH5) but the solution is unique to windows. I've tried everything from different proton versions, desktop mode, deleting my protonfiles and reinstalling the game itself, nothing works since you HAVE to sign into the game to play. The issue is with the xbox login, everything else works fine.